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This is when I said screw it let's see how I can focus the scope as I couldn't collimate, the shadow of the secondary just wouldn't get to the center no matter how extreme I made the secondary point. Then I see this image under fast exposure of .11 second. It's just star, typical focusmax vcurve run. Clearly shows there's an issue with the primary mirror given the other facts of the case. Just hope that it's not a basic issue with the mirror itself, just the way it's set into the telescope.