Give me Some Constructive Criticism

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This is a group that is designed for us to critically analyze each others images and to give suggestions so we can strive for that FINAL REPROCESS.
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M20: Hi, my name is Trevor, and I am a processing-a-holic.

by Trevor Woodrow

Jun 9, 2011

Hi All,

See the attached. Took this the weekend before last.

36 x 5min
St2000xcm
Explore Scientific 102 ED Triplet
Astronomick CCD LPR

I cannot put this down. The lower right is version 7, and the other three are panoramic stitches combining two or more of the previous 6 "finals" of this image. Shot in Maxim. Calibrated and Combined using Sigma Clip. DDP's in Maxim. Converted to Tiff and taken to CS2. Played with the Histo to balance the color (but kept it leaning redish as a preference) Carboni lightened and enhanced. HLVG. Did some hi-pass filtering via layers at 15 and 60. Also layered in a surface blur. Moved to microsoft added diffuse glow, enhanced the color, removed some blemishes and lightened the background. Converted to jpeg.

All images went through same process but in different order and or intensity. Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I did Hopp's little fake Alpha H thing too. Hopp, don't know where you got it from or how well known it is but have to credit you as you showed me.

Okay gents...hit me with it. Did I go too far, not far enough? I know there is other stuff in there, how do I bring it out without killing something else. I am pretty tough and will be able to handle anything short of "this is the worst piece of %$#@ I have ever seen."

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    Steve Coates

    I like the top right followed by the bottom right. I find the left sided images too soft, that is the nebula blends in too much with the background stars. Do you use GradientXterminater? What I found in using it was that it tamed the background just enough so it was not "as red", but that just may be a personal preference. Either way it is a very nice image.
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    Jun 10, 2011

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      Marc Basti

      The red thing is funny, it seems to want to be red (from my go in reprocess group). But, like Steve mentioned it's all blending together, I liked my repro better when I took out some (maybe too much) of the red-personal call. One thing I see is the gaseous area surrounding the neb is tending towards green, maybe go towards neutral/blue (?) Any time I've done a neb w/both emission and reflection light, I'm pulling my hair. I like the red you get in your pics (in the nebula) nice non eye hurting shade. Is this pic cropped? Nice pic dude. Marc
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      Jun 10, 2011

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        Derek Baker

        Trevor I like the image on the bottom left the best, although they are all very good and well-processed..... and the differences are at the most rather subtle.

        I am nitpicking here when I say the following feedback: I do think that you should be able to get more of the bluish reflection nebula that wraps around the HII region. Right now the faintest stuff has a greenish/brownish tone to it and doesn't look like a continuation of the brightest blue area directly above the HII region. I wonder if this is a result of one of the challenges that one-shot colour ccd cameras present. I have heard that you need a huge amount of data in order to have the faintest regions have sufficient colour fidelity.

        SoTrevor, the only suggestion I would make is to get more data from a dark site if you can. Nevertheless, you should be very pleased with this image!
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        Jul 8, 2011